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Sunday, September 25, 2005
BSG Blogging: Pegasus
By Dr. Steven Taylor @ 2:19 pm

First: curse whomever it was that decided to make us wait until January for the rest of season two.

Second, some thoughts:

  • Cain’s Guilt: There is clearly more to the Pegasus’story than Cain has let on, and I think that whatever those details are will help explain her general motivations.
  • Indeed, Cain’s general reaction to finding a fleet with 40ish thousand humans didn’t seem normal. There was never anything to indicate that the Pegasus crew or command staff was pleased that there were as many human survivors of the Holocaust as there were. They were pleased to have additional military assets, yes, but general pleasure over the number of humans who were still alive? None. This was underscored by the fact that Pegasus was willing to restock Galactica but was not willing to send supplies to the civilian ships. It was almost as if the civilian population didn’t really matter. Either this all plays into a back story that has yet to be fully revealed, or it was lazy writing to help up the tension level.

  • Overall, even though Cain throws Adama a bone of congratulations after reading the logs, she really seems to have no comprehension of what the Fleet signifies, or what it has been through. Certainly she affords neither Adama nor Roslin any respect. Now, it could be that she was always an egotistical jerk, or she has been traumatized, or both.
  • Indeed, to move outside the world of BSG into our own, I thought that there were some problems with the script. Specifically: the conflict between the two Battlestar crews was too immediate and too clichéd. That there would be that much immediate animosity given the fact that what we have here is the reuniting of two of the last remnants of humanity didn’t seem real on a program that has treated human emotions and responses to difficult situations as well as it has to date.

  • Speaking of cliches-at this point I do not entertain the notion that Cain or any of the Pegasus are Cylons. That would be too trite, and rather disappointing. No, I think that the ultimate answer is going to be that Cain and her crew simply had a very different reaction to the attack, the Holocaust and their survival than did Galactica and the Fleet. Indeed, it gets back to Adama’s admission on Kobol to Roslin that had it not been for her, he would have gone after the Cylons and that he and his crew would have died.
  • Clearly the response of the Pegasus’ crew has been to lapse more deeply into an extreme militarized existence, while Galactica’s situation, with a civilian government and population in the equation has lessened some of the more strident elements of the military existence.
  • Of course, along those lines, both crews did see fit to employ extreme methods of interrogation, crossing the line into torture, with Cylon captures. Of course, Starbuck’s usage of beating and the bucket of water on Leoben pales in comparison, on several level, to the gang-raping of Pegasus’ Number Six. It is noteworthy, though, that also along with the thought above, part of what put a stop to Stabuck’s interplay with Leoben was the intervention of the President. Whether intention or not, I think that the writings are making a point in comparing the two Battlestars in terms of the mitigating influence that civilian control of the military can have. And again, the key role of Roslin is brought to light.
  • It is odd and disturbing that that many of the Pegasus’ crew would be so into the whole gang rape activity.
  • Clearly, Galactica’ exposure to both iterations of Sharon have tempered their views of how to deal with the Cylons (and I don’t just mean Tyrol and Helo). As a side note: given their fight in the previous episode, it was quite interesting, and logical, that Helo and Tyrol would go together to save Sharon.
  • It is odd that the main goal of the Pegasus seems not to be consolidating and protecting humanity’s last remnant and exploring the whole Earth business, but rather they seem more interested simply in taking over—although that may feed into the whole guilt angle and the hyper-militarization angle. Still, it is odd. It is as if finding the Fleet didn’t really change the status quo all that much for Cain and company.

Fanboy Nitpick: why couldn’t Sharon fight off her attempted rape more effectively? Cylons, even the female one, have been demonstrated to be far stronger than humans—so handling three men shouldn’t have been that hard. Granted, there were also men with guns, but still—especially once help arrived, I was surprised she didn’t fight back more ferociously. I am also surprised Cain didn’t order Sharon transferred to Pegasus along with Tyrol and Helo.


(Part of the OTB Sunday Drive).

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  1. I was so hoping you would want to discuss this!

    The command conflicts were way to obvious, almost sterotype of the military, and we saw it coming weeks ago. It really got on my nerves. I agree that something is definately wierd (not in a cylon way) with the Pegaus crew!

    When one of the last segments was preceeded by a warning I had no idea how disturbing it would be to watch. However, I think it served to show how “human” Sharon is. (Remember that Six on Caprica hated her for her humanity.) I believe that is why she didn’t fight back more, she wanted to protect her baby, and couldn’t beieve it was happening given her experience with the crew of BSG. The crew of BSP had no problems with it because they seem to have lost their humanity. Okay so maybe just the better more moral parts of it.

    Having seen and heard how the BSP choses to deal with Cylons is was even harder to watch the scene cut back to Six and Baltar. I can now see how he will justify siding with the Cylons.

    Can’t wait until January. And yes I am much to old to be this addicted to a television show!

    Comment by paige — Sunday, September 25, 2005 @ 3:07 pm

  2. Geek Break

    I took some time off from obsessively hitting the news and the blogs for info about rita to indulge in my Friday night guilty (not really), pleasure:

    Battlestar Galactica

    Trackback by Down deep in Texas: The View from Waco — Sunday, September 25, 2005 @ 6:59 pm

  3. A question about the military torture vs. the “mitigating” influence of the civilian culture.

    Erm, didn’t the President lie to the captured cylon and then shove him out an airlock?

    Comment by Steven L. — Monday, September 26, 2005 @ 2:03 pm

  4. I mean, if it was me, I’d be all “thanks for the mitigation, but can we go back to the bucket of water thing?!”

    That’s all I’m sayin’.

    Comment by Steven L. — Monday, September 26, 2005 @ 2:18 pm

  5. You raise a valid point ;)

    Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Monday, September 26, 2005 @ 3:33 pm

  6. Perhaps I should reformulate in terms of the general presence of civilians?

    Something’s up with that crew, to be honest.

    Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Monday, September 26, 2005 @ 3:37 pm

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