Comments on: Perhaps the Fouth Time… http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=8180 A rough draft of my thoughts... Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:49:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1.2 by: Fruits and Votes http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=8180#comment-218928 Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:51:03 +0000 http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=8180#comment-218928 <strong>Federalism and Constitution Day once more</strong> OK, I relent. I was not going to say any more about this issue. But Steven posted the other day a further clarification of a point he and I have been bouncing forth and back and forth again, with Scott also getting into the mix (and all of us making... Federalism and Constitution Day once more

OK, I relent. I was not going to say any more about this issue.
But Steven posted the other day a further clarification of a point he and I have been bouncing forth and back and forth again, with Scott also getting into the mix (and all of us making…

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by: Rob M http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=8180#comment-217632 Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:14:19 +0000 http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=8180#comment-217632 I find the best part of this debate the fact that Byrd inserted Constitution Day into a Conference Report. A Mandate with no Debate. :) I find the best part of this debate the fact that Byrd inserted Constitution Day into a Conference Report.

A Mandate with no Debate. :)

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by: Bryan S. http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=8180#comment-217582 Sun, 18 Sep 2005 13:44:21 +0000 http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=8180#comment-217582 I think it's called blackmail in the real world. Don't forget the 21 year old drinking age extortion. Louisiana resisted raising the drinking age for years and had horrible roads as a result. In this relationship, the federal government is like the pusher who gets the addict hooked and then starts upping the cost of supplying the drugs, knowing that the addict can't quit. I think it’s called blackmail in the real world.

Don’t forget the 21 year old drinking age extortion. Louisiana resisted raising the drinking age for years and had horrible roads as a result.

In this relationship, the federal government is like the pusher who gets the addict hooked and then starts upping the cost of supplying the drugs, knowing that the addict can’t quit.

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by: ATM http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=8180#comment-217077 Sun, 18 Sep 2005 07:28:52 +0000 http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=8180#comment-217077 Indeed part of the problem is that the federal government takes in too much revenue directly. Lower federal income taxes and let states increase their own taxes. Indeed part of the problem is that the federal government takes in too much revenue directly. Lower federal income taxes and let states increase their own taxes.

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by: KipEsquire http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=8180#comment-217076 Sun, 18 Sep 2005 04:16:29 +0000 http://www.poliblogger.com/?p=8180#comment-217076 <i>"[T]he federal government has the right to collect taxes and then spend that money on items not enumerated in the Constitution, and that the states have the right to refuse that money, at least in theory. As such, the core of federalism is maintained."</i> But there is another "core of federalism" that you are completely overlooking -- the idea that the federal government should only use federal taxes for federal functions, states should only use state taxes for state functions, and localities should only use local taxes for local functions -- what I call "fiscal federalism." If government, at all levels, held true to fiscal federalism, then your "Spending Clause - Enumerated Powers - Implied Powers" conundrum would evaporate. “[T]he federal government has the right to collect taxes and then spend that money on items not enumerated in the Constitution, and that the states have the right to refuse that money, at least in theory. As such, the core of federalism is maintained.”

But there is another “core of federalism” that you are completely overlooking — the idea that the federal government should only use federal taxes for federal functions, states should only use state taxes for state functions, and localities should only use local taxes for local functions — what I call “fiscal federalism.” If government, at all levels, held true to fiscal federalism, then your “Spending Clause - Enumerated Powers - Implied Powers” conundrum would evaporate.

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