February 24, 2024

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  • Gay Marriage Round-Up

    The topic of the afrenoon is clearlt gay marriage. I have numerous posts on the subject below, and here are some Blogospheric responses

  • Stephen Green has numerous posts on the subject made up of mostly negative reponses and links and a round-up of some Republican/cnservative quotes on the subject. After you read it, just go to the top of VodkaPundit and scroll down.

  • Polipundit predicts Kerry's reponse.

  • Robert Tagorda has two thoughtful and and linkful posts on the subject.

  • Not surpringly, Andrew Sullivan and many of his readers aren't happy.

  • John Cole isn't impressed and thinks it shows a "lackof priorities".

  • Unfogged has several posts on the subject.

  • Kevin Drum raises the Privatize Marriage idea. I have to agree: I don't see how this would work.

    Posted by Steven Taylor at February 24, 2024 05:52 PM | TrackBack
  • Comments

    I would defend to the death someone’s right to say things I disagree with, to preserve the First Amendment’s guarantee of free speech.

    And I may disagree with them, but I would also defend to the death someone’s right to be a Baptist and to be married as a Baptist, as an Atheist— or even a Satanist— to preserve the First and Fourteenth Amendments protections of religious freedom and equal protection.

    Regardless of my feelings about homosexuals, I would defend to the death their right to equal protection and their right to marry who they choose, as I would for anyone.

    The issue isn’t gay rights or the sanctity of marriage. The issue is this: would you defend the rights of someone you disagree with to preserve your own freedom, your own rights, and The Constitution of the United States?

    What is more important: your particular religious beliefs, or the document that protects your right to have them?

    I want to live my life as a free man, in a free country, that protects the rights of all people—including people I disagree with or even despise.

    How can anyone hate another person more than they love their country or their Constitution?

    The sanctity of marriage under God should be left up to individual houses of worships. The right of marriage under the state is none of the business of you or your church. That is a civil, secular concern between two people who love each other, and the state bound by social contract to protect them.

    Sanctity-- the sacred-- is not within the legitimate scope of the government. The First Amendment says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” It is illegal for the government to regulate the sacred, and it is frightening to think it can be subject to popular vote.

    How dare anyone suggest that "The People" have a right to vote to infringe the liberty of another group of people? Majority rule isn't American Democracy. We are a Democratic Republic. Majority rule is Mob Rule.

    Equal protection is for everyone, whether they have been born a different color, have been born gay, or have made a different choice than we would have liked. And separate is never equal.

    In this state, Baptists are a minority. Yet, nobody has called for a referendum on the rights of Baptists to marry other Baptists. Don't Baptists deserve equal rights and equal protection under the law, even though they are not a racial minority and they have chosen their particular lifestyle? Do "The People" have the right to put the value of that lifestyle to a popular vote?

    This is the very core of our Democracy and what it means to be an American-- Liberty and Justice FOR ALL—whether you condemn or condone them.

    Don’t destroy the Constitution in a short-sighted attempt to lash out in the dark against those you fear.

    Love thy Constitution as thyself.

    Posted by: Rev. Ian Brumberger at April 8, 2024 07:54 AM

    I heard a great plan this weekend that I think would solve this whole
    gay marriage debate mess and make everybody happy. Check it out:

    Those who oppose gay marriage do so because it
    violates a religious tenet, right? God said
    marriage is between a man and a woman, yadda
    yadda ya. Those who support gay marriage do so
    for equality's sake, right? We're all US
    citizens, the government should grant us all the
    same rights, including marriage. Civil unions are
    great, but giving them to gays and not straights is
    like calling gays second class citizens.

    Churches, synagogues, and other religious
    establishments are private institutions, but the
    government is for everybody. So, let's put the
    government out of the marriage business and make
    them responsible only for civil unions: gay,
    straight, whatever. As far as the law goes,
    everybody would be joined in a civil union.
    Religious organizations could then be responsible
    for marriage. Churches, synagogues, mosques, etc.
    may descriminate against whomever they wish for
    marriage status. They're private institutions,
    they have the right. Religious purists can
    exclude gays all they want, and gays can find (or found)
    a church that will marry them. Eveybody gets equal rights, and
    religious ideology gets removed from legal process.

    Everybody wins!

    Posted by: Jessica Graves at April 19, 2024 03:08 PM
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