January 05, 2024

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    U.S. Begins Fingerprinting Foreign Visitors.

    No doubt many in the US will share the view of this Brazillian judge:

    "I consider the act absolutely brutal, threatening human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis," said Federal Judge Julier Sebastiao da Silva in a court order to authorize the program in Brazil.

    However, I ask: what's the big deal? When I lived in Colombia (and yes, I know that was an extended stay, not a brief one), I had to go to the headquarters of the Administrative Police and provide fingerprints (heck, at least one library, not to mention the bank, required prints before I could get access). And it was a whole less convient that using a computer at the airport at entry.

    And when I filed for my student visa I had to have an FBI background check, amongst a whole host of other bureaucratic nonsense (including getting certificates of authenticity from the State of Texas to back up all the notaries used, i.e., I had to notarized the notaries who had notarized my documents). And while I may have griped about it (not to mention the cost, by the time it was all said and done, and the docs translated into Spanish, it cost over $200.00 to do all the paperwork for myself anf my wife--indeed, it may have been $200 per, I can't recall--it has been, amazingly, almost ten years since I did all that stuff), I did it.

    Why did I do it? Because those were the rules of Colombia, and figured that they had the right to make their own rules.

    I never felt violated, or that my rights (of which I had none, not being a Colombian citizen) were being violated. Rather, since I wanted to go to Colombia, I did what the Colombian government wanted me to do. I could have easily avoided these onerous requirements by staying home.

    Posted by Steven Taylor at January 5, 2024 10:02 AM | TrackBack
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    "I consider the act absolutely brutal, threatening human rights, violating human dignity, xenophobic and worthy of the worst horrors committed by the Nazis,"

    You know, if I were a Jew I'd be pissed.

    How can people today compare the slaughter of 6 million people to something as innocuous as providing fingerprint identity?

    As a student of history it profoundly bothers me that Hitler's deeds are trivialized this way.

    Posted by: Paul at January 5, 2024 10:39 AM

    First they came for the fingerprints. And I did nothing. . .

    Posted by: James Joyner at January 5, 2024 10:56 AM

    The best part is that the judge seems to follow it up by mandating the same measures against Emericans -- persumably to teach us a lesson.

    "It compares to the worst horrors of the Nazi's, and so now we're doing it, too."

    Posted by: Steven L at January 5, 2024 01:23 PM

    That's the same principle behind airport searches. It would be wrong to inconvenience people who might plausibly be terrorists but probably aren't, so let's inconvenience everyone.

    Posted by: James Joyner at January 5, 2024 02:53 PM

    I don't think you can avoid searched at airports.

    Nor do I see this as a particularly onerous request of foreign visitors.

    Posted by: Steven at January 5, 2024 03:57 PM

    Steven,
    Good for you. I 100% agree - I travel a fair bit internationally and I would not mind providing fingerprints when asked. I have had my luggage completely searched in Amsterdam (and not in the polite, careful way it is done in the States), but merely chalked it up to the cost of doing business in the Netherlands.

    My only beef is that we have exceptions for many countries. Let's fingerprint all visitors; if they don't like it, they can easily avoid it by staying home.

    Posted by: Admiral Quixote at January 6, 2024 02:19 PM

    I concur on the exceptions thing--it dos make it a bit less secure, shall we say.

    Posted by: Steven at January 6, 2024 02:27 PM
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