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Sunday, August 15, 2004
IE v. Firefox and the < li > Tag

By Steven Taylor @ 3:45 pm

Does anyone know why the bullets generated by < li > tags stay in the columns like they are supposed to in IE, but float outside the column in Firefox? For example: if you look at my blog in IE, the bulleted lists in the left-hand column display properly, but in Firefox the bullets are on the outside of the column.

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  1. WordPress apparently forces you to use “proper” HTML. MT apparently knew what just a plain meant but you need to close out list tags now with a .

    Comment by James Joyner — Monday, August 16, 2004 @ 8:58 am

  2. It stripped the HTML from my list. [li]Bulleted item [/li]

    Comment by James Joyner — Monday, August 16, 2004 @ 8:59 am

  3. You don’t have a ul tag to start the whole list, nor a ul end tag (If you didn’t have the li end tags for the list items, then you had the wrong document type definition, all versions of xhtml require the end tag for list items, in HTML 4 it is optional.)

    Comment by Sam — Monday, August 16, 2004 @ 9:31 am

  4. I’m not really sure what this refers to, but there is a difference in how browsers treat list item alignment. I don’t have my notes in front of me here, but I can tell you that IE and Opera are on one side, and Mozilla[/Firefox/Netscape 7] and the KHTML family (Konqueror and Safari, primarily) are on the other. For example, if you set the left margin to make bullets align flush-left in IE and Opera, they’ll be indented in Mozilla and KHTML; if you set them to be flush left in Moz / KHTML, they’ll be out-dented in IE / Opera.

    The only remedy I found was to use JavaScript to set the left-margin value. I detect the browser as a Mozilla or KHTML variant, then modify a style to set the left margin value. This is surprisingly difficult to do; Mozilla wants you to do everything by reference to ID, so changing the values for a style class is apparently outre. I found a technique that involves changing a style mapping in a known position in a specific stylesheet (you have to reference indexed arrays of objects to do this, so you can never change the order of stylesheets ever after), but it’s really clumsy and doesn’t seem to work for the KHTML browsers.

    Comment by eric scoles — Monday, August 16, 2004 @ 9:40 am

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