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Thursday, August 5, 2004
A Swiftly Tilting Ad Campaign

By Steven Taylor @ 7:34 pm

Settign aside for a moment any issue of its veracity, Chirs Lawrence is correct: the “Swift Boat Veterans for Truth” ad is pretty “devastating". The reason being is that it starts with a quote from Kohn Edwards, stating that all you need to know about Kerry’s character can be gleaned from spending “three minutes” with men who served with him in Viet Nam. Using that obviously simplsiti standard, the commercial goes one to quote at least half a dozen such veterans (yes, I know they didn’t serve on Kerry’s boat, but they served in other boats that were with Kerry on a weekly basis, and at least some who bunked with Kerry-in short, they did serve with him quite directly).

However, the fault for this situation at least partially Kerry’s for making this campaign so much about his four months in Viet Nam and for saying that his service was so wonderful that anyone who served with him would vouch for him.

Further, Kerry has yet to account for his own words where he said that he and his brothers in arms committed war crimes.

Filed under: 2004 Campaign
  • Legal XXX linked with Why is John McCain Relevant to the Swiftee Story?
  • Backcountry Conservative linked with John Kerry & Vietnam Round-Up

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  1. Before you begin your circle jerk, you should know that John McCain just bitchslapped these guys.

    Oh and one of these Swift Boat Veterans seems to be playing fast and loose with the truth.

    You know what ads like this are? They’re the smell of fear.

    Comment by Truth Squad — Thursday, August 5, 2004 @ 8:30 pm

  2. Re: McCain, one wonders his relevance to this story beyond thinking Kerry is a nice guy. THAT much isn’t in dispute-the “quality” (best word I can think of) of Kerry’s service in Vietnam is at issue, and McCain was not present at that point in time. He may well not like the ad, so what though?

    And re: the American History mag-the reports that the boats came under fire were from KERRY-whose veracity on this issue is what’s in question.

    Comment by Christopher Cross — Thursday, August 5, 2004 @ 8:43 pm

  3. Thurlow also got a bronze star from the same incident. Is Thurlow planning to return his?

    He may well not like the ad, so what though?

    He probably has a sense of deja vu from when Dubya’s trash squad smeared him in South Carolina.

    Comment by Truth Squad — Thursday, August 5, 2004 @ 8:49 pm

  4. Kerry’s version of events is not the only in question, in any case.

    Comment by Truth Squad — Thursday, August 5, 2004 @ 8:52 pm

  5. I don’t doubt McCain might feel that-it is ultimately irrelevant though.

    Further, regarding Thurlow’s Bronze Star-returning it would arguably be warranted if it were awarded for similar conduct. Even the article you cite to contains far more happening than merely the rescuing of Rassmann.

    Presumably, Thurlow’s star was awarded for his efforts following the mining of PCF-3 where he jumped aboard to offer assistance to the wounded. (page 3-4 of the story)

    The bravery in his conduct was not dependent upon the presence of enemy fire-whereas kerry’s arguably was.

    So ease up on the “truth squad” reins there, Tonto.

    And re: your final comment- you’re right-since both accounts differ, it’d be negligent for reporters to not conduct a more complete investigation re: whom is being truthful (insofar as a person’s recollections can be verified).

    Comment by Christopher Cross — Thursday, August 5, 2004 @ 9:39 pm

  6. Some of y’all are missing the point.

    The point here isn’t he-said/she-said, it’s not what actually happened way back when.

    The point here is that more than a dozen Swift boat commanders who served alongside John Kerry, most of them mere yards from Kerry at any given time, and Kerry’s entire chain of command up to Rear Admiral Hoffmann, and some 235 other veterans of the company in which Kerry served have all come out and said, “This guy is the wrong choice.”

    That’s worth listening to.

    Comment by Jeff Harrell — Thursday, August 5, 2004 @ 9:54 pm

  7. You could say that this ad’s a timely wrinkle…

    Comment by Consequences Squad — Thursday, August 5, 2004 @ 10:06 pm

  8. So are you questioning the timing of the ad? ;-)

    Comment by Christopher Cross — Thursday, August 5, 2004 @ 11:18 pm

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