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Monday, September 8, 2003
Here are Some More

By Steven Taylor @ 8:03 pm

More from the NR pages (and before anyone tries the “National Review is a conservative rag” argument, note that all of these cite mainstream newspapers):

SLICK GORE
Washington Post, Sept. 24
CLAIM: At Sept. 22 press conference, Gore says, “I’ve been a part of the discussions on the strategic reserve since the days when it was first established.”
TRUTH: President Ford established the Strategic Petroleum Reserves when he signed the Energy Policy and Conservation Act (EPCA) on December 22, 1975 — two years before Al Gore became a congressman.

ABORTION #1
February 20, 2000; New York Times
CLAIM: Gore said he has “always, always, always” supported Roe v. Wade.
TRUTH: In 1977, Rep. Gore voted for the Hyde Amendment, which says that abortion “takes the life of an unborn child who is a living human being,” and that there is no constitutional right to abortion. He cast many other votes favorable to the pro-life cause and earned an 84 percent rating from the National Right to Life Committee.

LOVE CANAL
December 1, 1999; Concord High School, Concord, N.H.
CLAIM: “I found a little place in upstate New York called Love Canal. I had the first hearing on that issue.”
TRUTH: In October 1978, Gore did hold congressional hearings on Love Canal — which he apparently “found” two months after President Carter declared it a disaster area and the federal government offered to buy the homes.

EITC
November 1, 1999; Time interview
CLAIM: “I was the author of that proposal [the Earned Income Tax Credit]. I wrote that, so I say [to Bill Bradley], Welcome aboard. That is something for which I have been the principal proponent for a long time.”
TRUTH: The original EITC law was enacted in 1975. Gore entered Congress in 1977.

PEACE CORPS
February 16, 1992; C-SPAN’s Booknotes
CLAIM: Gore said his sister was “the very first volunteer for the Peace Corps.”
TRUTH: Nancy Gore Hunger was a paid employee at Peace Corps headquarters, 1961-64.

HOMETOWN
February 1988; two ads
CLAIM: “I’m Al Gore. I grew up on a farm,” and “growing up in Carthage, Tennessee, I learned our bedrock values . . .”
TRUTH: Gore, the son of a senator, grew up primarily at the Fairfax Hotel in Washington, D.C., in a suite of rooms overlooking Embassy Row. He graduated from the ritzy St. Albans National Cathedral School, also in the capital.

SCHOOL DAYS
1988 campaign video
CLAIM: Narrator calls him a “brilliant student.”
TRUTH: “His grades were uneven, never approaching the plateau of A’s and B’s that might be expected of one who possesses such a pedagogical demeanor,” reported the Washington Post (3-19-00).

ARMS CONTROL
1984 Senate ad
CLAIM: Narrator says Gore “wrote the bipartisan plan on arms control that U.S. negotiators will take to the Russians.”
TRUTH: Ken Adelman, director of U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency: “He had nothing to do with what we proposed to the Soviets” (Boston Globe, 4-11-00).

I skipped a lot of them, especially ones that could be reasonably inferred as mistakes. And I will grant that some of these are open to interpretation, although not most of them. There are some pretty egregious ones here that I had forgotten about, like Love Canal, the Strategic Oil Reserve, the EITC and the abortion claims.

Are we still saying that there is no pattern here?

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9 Comments»

  1. National Review? Say, aren’t those the folks who have columnists that said the Dow would hit 36,000 in 2003? Aren’t they championing the “flypaper theory” in Iraq? And isn’t Ken Adelman a GOP operative who claimed Iraq would be a “cakewalk?”

    I suppose it’s a cakewalk to one like Adelman who doesn’t actually have to fight there and whose greatest risk is perhaps a day-old bagel in the green room at some network.

    IOW, no credibility.

    Some debunking of some of these claims is here (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2000/0004.parry.html).

    You can find a devastating smackdown of the abortion lie told by NR here: http://www.dailyhowler.com/h052400_1.shtml

    Comment by JadeGold — Monday, September 8, 2003 @ 9:17 pm

  2. Again with the insults instead of making actual arguments.

    I will look at the links tomorrow. The Love Canal article looks interesting, I will look at the Daily Howler thing later.

    You still have a large number of cases to go, however. You best get busy.

    Comment by Steven — Monday, September 8, 2003 @ 9:52 pm

  3. Jade

    You apparently think that rather than argue this debate on its merits you can win the debate by linking to people who are on Gore’s side and try to cover for him. As if the QUANTITY of people you link that are willing to discount his lies is an indicator of his truthfulness.

    If that is the measure of this debate, I’ll be happy to hit google and find plenty of people (including many Dems) who say Gore was lying. If you post 30 people willing to cover for him, I can post 31 saying he is a liar.

    What does it prove?

    This is a rather lame way of trying to make a point.

    No right winger made Gore say those things. And certainly no right-winger sat down and wrote them from whole cloth as you imply.

    For you to win this argument you have to prove that:

    1) Gore never said these things

    or

    2) They are all true.

    The problem is you can prove neither. And you can use colorful words like “smack-down” all day but that will not change your two burdens above. There are dozens of these quotes. Even if you provide reasonable doubt for half of them, that still leaves dozens. Yet no matter how you try to twist a statement here or there, you can not escape the point.

    Gore was a liar and nearly as good at it as Clinton.

    I could meet you half way at “He had a bad habit of exaggeration” but somehow I think you won’t even admit to that EVEN THOUGH his own campaign manager called that he greatest weakness.

    Paul

    Comment by Paul — Tuesday, September 9, 2003 @ 1:02 am

  4. Paul,

    Indeed, you hit the nail on the head, and this is my basic point:

    I could meet you half way at “He had a bad habit of exaggeration” but somehow I think you won’t even admit to that EVEN THOUGH his own campaign manager called that he greatest weakness.

    I’m with you-it seems undeniable that this is true, and further, that it cost him in the election.

    Comment by Steven — Tuesday, September 9, 2003 @ 7:48 am

  5. Paul:

    Apparently you believe in the ‘Beavis and Butthead’ method of discourse. IOW, you *think* you hear a naughty word and you giggle to yourself. (Example: Teacher: ‘That’s an asinine suggestion.’

    Beavis: ‘He said, ‘ass.’

    Butthead: Heh, heh. Heh, heh.

    The fact is you haven’t come up with one instance where Gore lied. They’ve all been debunked-even by the very people who are the leading subject matter experts. But that’s not good enough for you; so, instead of taking these subject matter experts at their word, you call them ‘liars’ as well. So far, you’ve called Vint Cerf, Bob Kahn, Katie Hafner, Phil Agre, Erich Segal liars. You’ve also deemed ordinary folk who were present when Gore made comments liars. You’ve called newspapers and columnists with whom you disagree liars.

    Essentially, it seems you’re willing to deem everyone a liar even as the evidence shows otherwise. That fact doesn’t bode well for your own integrity, Paul.

    Comment by JadeGold — Tuesday, September 9, 2003 @ 7:58 am

  6. Quite the contrary Jade, I see reality and you see fantasy.

    Even his own campain manager saw this and felt strongly enough about it to put it in writing. I guess she is a member of the right wing too???

    Your Washington Monthy piece that supposedly debunked much of these was itself debunked at the time so it is hardly impressive. In fact, most of the links that you posted have harmed your case, not helped it.

    BTW you never answer my “yes or no” questions.

    #1) Did Al Gore claim to create the internet?

    #2) Did he really create the internet?

    Answer those and we might get somewhere.

    Paul

    Remember those are YES or NO questions.

    Comment by Paul — Tuesday, September 9, 2003 @ 8:44 am

  7. Paul, it’s not a legitimate discussion to try to force your opponent to answer only ‘yes’ or ‘no’.

    Have you stopped beating your wife yet? Only yes or no.

    The question you ask about Gore creating the internet is based on an inacurrate quotation.

    You can easily find the actual explanation for his quotation with a Google search.

    Comment by Craig — Saturday, November 15, 2003 @ 3:51 am


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