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  1. You said:

    “I don’t think that Dean’s steady flow of inflammatory rhetoric is actually helping his party in terms of potential electoral success.”

    Then you said:

    “I would also wonder what the intellectually honest amongst the hardcore base think of his constant verbal antics.”

    First off, I doubt that I’d count as part of the “hard core base” since I’m a proudly independent liberal. But I’ll give you my two cents anyhoo.

    Howard Dean needs to shut up with his divisive rhetoric, or step down as DNC Chair. He is doing more for the RNC than he is the DNC by FAR. As a left-leaning guy who wishes to see the actual COMMON MAN represented on Capitol Hill again, complete with some common sense Liberal values (no, NOT wacky “far-left” values!) installed again in our Government, every time this man opens his mouth, I cringe!

    It is precisely because of fools like him that I left the Democrat Party to become independent. It got to the point where it was embarrassing to be associated with people like Ted Kennedy, Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, etc.; because I am NOT like tham at ALL. While I wouldn’t say I’m a Zell Miller type either, I definitely can relate to Joe Leiberman, Barak Obama, and Governor Richardson (NM). These people are simply unwelcomed at the event Dean appears at.

    And it’s a shame the Democrat Party is leaning the way of Howard Dean. It is suicidal. Dean’s appeal is to the far-left, upscale, liberal (small “L”) elitists and NOT the average, everyday American who thinks Social Security needs to be healthy, the borders need to be secured, guns are magical monsters who jump out of their cases and shoot people, etc.

    Doctor Dean has no chance at all of reaching out to these people. He needs to be canned before irreversable damage has been done to the DNC.

    Comment by Gun-Toting Liberal — Saturday, August 6, 2005 @ 1:20 pm

  2. Indeed, I would take a step further: it isn’t even as if Dean is spending a lot of time promoting left-liberal policy; instead he seems to go around simply bad-mouthing the other side. That simply isn’t productive.

    Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Saturday, August 6, 2005 @ 2:18 pm

  3. Both of the above comments suggest Dean is ineffective. But let’s keep in mind that he is not a declared candidate for any office or current officeholder. He is the party chair. What is the role of the party chair? Mainly to raise money. (Also to coordinate the next round of primry elections and their procedures and the convention.) So that is the test. Is he effective at raising money (for an off year, for an out party) and coordinating the organizational machinery of the party? I do not know. But these are the only standards that are relevant in judging him.

    I like to think of myself as “intellectually honest” and though I have never considered myself part of the Democratic base, I am much closer to it than to the other side. So, I cringe at some of Dean’s remarks, too. Still, I find others of his attention-grabbing remarks utterly refreshing.

    But the bottom line is that I consider most “red meat” profoundly damaging to my digestive system. I long for a viable third party, but I’ve been longing for that all my politically aware life. OK, I am going to go eat some cheese now.

    Comment by Matthew Shugart — Saturday, August 6, 2005 @ 3:13 pm

  4. I am not convinced, although it does seem to be the prevailing conventional wisdom these days, that the RNC/DNC chair positions are primarily money-raising positions and therefore that should be the method of measuring their successes. I think that they also serve PR functions that go beyond simply fundraising-this is especially true for the party out of power.

    Indeed, if money is the issue, the party should have kept McAuliffe.

    I can certainly see how making some “attention-grabbing remarks” would be a useful exercie for the DNC chair-but it seems like that is all he does (of course, that could be that that is all the media focuses upon).

    Comment by Dr. Steven Taylor — Saturday, August 6, 2005 @ 3:19 pm

  5. Dr. Taylor;

    Candy coat it all you want, but the fact is, and you are echoing; Dean is way off base. If he’s a fundraiser and nothing else, they need to yank the mic out from in front of his mouth on the National airwaves if they have any hope of winning elections. He, and the DNC, have absolutely no allegiance or appeal to the common man any longer. And (of course!), neither does the RNC. I’d love to hear something from a “lover of people” coming out of the DNC for once. It would be so refreshing.

    Comment by Gun-Toting Liberal — Saturday, August 6, 2005 @ 10:58 pm

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